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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Mike Oxsaw 2:33 Sun Jul 4
What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
Doesn't have to be Covid related, but I suspect, for many, science only began in December 2019.

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ironsofcanada 2:41 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
There is a podcast called Sawbones that my wife listens to (been around the profession for her whole working life) that deals with some of the amazing things we have done to each other in name of medical science.

One on John Harvey Kellogg for instance - daily yogurt enemas and Corn Flakes to cure self pleasure.

mashed in maryland 2:43 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
The food pyramid and butter being unhealthy.

Still pushed by the NHS even though its absolute bollocks and dates back to when "big food" wanted to push cheaply made bread, cereals and crap like margarine and rapeseed oil as "healthy".

The reason why so many people are fat these days is because most of us eat like shit, based on the above. Probably killed hundreds of millions prematurely.

mashed in maryland 2:46 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?

ironsofcanada 2:41 Sun Jul 4

Food literally invented to fuck around with hormones pushed as a healthy breakfast for decades. Criminal tbh.

zico 2:57 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
Not sure if it's science per se but I was reading an article the other day that suggests modern day measuring techniques might show that K2 is actually the highest mountain on the planet not Everest. Which means most people have probably been climbing the wrong one for years!

Far Cough 3:08 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
Climbing Everest is a walk in the park compared with K2, it's not called Savage mountain for nothing

Would be interesting if K2 was the highest though

ironsofcanada 3:15 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
mashed in maryland 2:46 Sun Jul 4

Unfortunately not a unique case.

Going further back one of my favourites is mercury for syphilis.

There is a painting by William Hogarth called Marriage a-la-Mode 3 The Inspection or The visit to the quack doctor.

In it a young noble and his child or very young mistress/prostitute are going for a refill of mercury. She is dabbing her lips either from mercury poisoning or an oozing sore.

https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/william-hogarth-marriage-a-la-mode-3-the-inspection

Mad Dog 3:17 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
I do like the way that subsequent "findings" keep contradicting each other as to which food is bad and which food is healthy

Mike Oxsaw 3:19 Sun Jul 4
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Mad Dog 3:17 Sun Jul 4

It all depends on the relative size of each food mountain/lake.

arsene york-hunt 4:08 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
PHLOGISTON

A substance supposed by 18th-century chemists to exist in all combustible bodies, and to be released in combustion.

MrTrentReznor 4:12 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
CO2 is 0.041% of the earth's atmosphere. 97% of that is caused by plant-life. The remaining 3% is caused by human activity. The planet has warmed & cooled 5 times previously.
This period of global warming is DEFINITELY caused by human activity - ie 3% of 0.041%

Darlo Debs 4:19 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
Assuming we count meteorology.as science, then not predicting the 87 hurricane was a classic.

gph 6:52 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
How many more times are we going to get this stupid argument that small amounts are necessarily insignificant amounts?

12 ppm of an atmospheric gas doesn't sound very much, but, for example, 1 ppm of ricin relative to your body mass is enought to kill you.

cambsiron 10:53 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
Thinking that we could stop a second covid wave by closing pubs at 10 meaning they were open for 11 hours instead of 12 and causing everyone to travel on the tube at the same time when they would have been staggered. Useless fucking think too much scientist cunts.

Hallerinthemorning 10:53 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
Bruce jenner

Nurse Ratched 11:25 Sun Jul 4
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
I quite like the wandering womb theory.

Westham67 11:33 Sun Jul 4
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Science cannot be wrong but scientists can HTH

defjam 11:41 Sun Jul 4
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Darlo Debs 4:19 Sun Jul 4

'Assuming we count meteorology.as science, then not predicting the 87 hurricane was a classic.'

Well technically Michael Fish wasn't wrong, we didn't and can't get hurricanes here.
The storm was an extratropical cyclone with a sting jet, which was previously unheard of.
Also the storm originated in the Bay of Biscay not in the Tropics and the pressure drop was incredible.
I actually went out for a while in it and still have photos from the next morning.

MrTrentReznor 12:06 Mon Jul 5
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
gph,
So because a tiny amount of a lethal toxin is fatal to humans a tiny proportion of a naturally occuring compound that is vital for human & plant life should be viewed with equal suspicion because to scale they are both minute?
The only thing ricin & CO2 have in common in this context is the tiny proportions of both. If ricin was vital for human & plant life your comparison would have some merit.

gph 12:20 Mon Jul 5
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
"he only thing ricin & CO2 have in common in this context is the tiny proportions of both."

You're struggling with the logic here. If argument from proportion doesn't work in one case, it doesn't work in the other. So you need something else.

How many parts per million of sand in engine oil would you be happy putting in your car?

oioi 12:45 Mon Jul 5
Re: What's your favourite thing science got wrong?
The Wobbly Bridge

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